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The Major  Challenges That Come With The Vegan Lifestyle And How To Handle Them
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The Major Challenges That Come With The Vegan Lifestyle And How To Handle Them

When Conflicts Arise and How to Overcome Them After You Become Vegan

Congratulations to you who just chose to be vegan, whether it is for your health, to save animals or both. I'm sure that you are feeling good personally, for yourself and for the animal planet. As long as the diet is balanced with 30% proteins, 30% carbohydrates and 30% unsaturated fats; you are eating very healthy as a vegan.

Now when you are single, living single as the head of your household, you are in control for yourself here. Glorious! And way to go, that you became vegan. You may or may not get family support which is crucial here. However you are in the position to control your own destiny here and you have the opportunity to choose to surround yourself with those who think like you, here. Here you build your support team consisting of other vegans as well as you pay forwards to them. This is a great way to grow as a vegan while including the community.

On the other hand what happens now that you are vegan and your husband or wife says "no", don't bring this diet into our house. They say that they are not giving up their pork, beef or veal. On one hand, you don't want to be without your family support. Then on the other hand, you are not going to change them.

When the other head of the household is not going to eat vegan, don't give up. You have come this far. Bear in mind that success is only one millimeter away. When you first asked them and got a flat out "no" on refusing to eat vegan, ask again a week later. When they don't want to be sold on vegan foods, tell them why you want to eat this way. Take some measures to divide the kitchen so that they can eat their way too. Then hard part comes...Cook both ways. It can be done. Maybe after they see your good results, they might decide to join you, instead.

This is the hardest one to cross. If you are under 18 and just became vegan, you need to have the parent(s) who are heads of your household, agree to buy you the foods and allow you to have them in their house. Most liberal parents might even be open to try this themselves. However in the case when the door is partially or fully closed to this, living this life style becomes more of a challenge to you. Some tips to dealing with this, is if you are old enough to work, get a job. Make your own money. Buy your own foods. Then offer to cook for your parent(s) making both their food and yours. Use separate pots and dishes. You might even get to practice behavior modification, doing this. If you are not old enough to work, offering to cook both ways for the entire family, might still work. Also offer to do more chores to get your vegan foods. Ask your parent(s) for their support from time to time. Join an online vegan program for support too. Stop by www.theflamingvegan.com. The bottom line is don't quit.

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  1. Carolyn
    Carolyn
    Hey Susan! Glad to see you posting on the Flaming Vegan. I will have five more votes in about 30 minutes. Will definitely return and vote for your article!
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    1. pftsusan
      pftsusan
      Thank you Carolyn.
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  2. Carolyn
    Carolyn
    Vote #2! Will send article to some Good Blogs friends we share and ask them to vote.
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    1. pftsusan
      pftsusan
      Thank you Carolynn.
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  3. dianabart
    dianabart
    Good article.. however, we do not need 30% protein.. only 10% is actually needed. We are a over protein society, and it is causing many health problems- not to mention that the food pyramid is WAY off! Check out the China Study, and Forks over Knives on this matter! I am so thankful that my husband went Vegan the same day I did... and my kids are eating healthier too.. We are a NO meat family, (except my teenager that is old enough to feed herself) I cannot buy, handle or cook meat for anyone again. It makes me sick, and they fully understand. -Best wishes in your endeavors!
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    1. pftsusan
      pftsusan
      Thank you. I disagree with the 10% because as a personal trainer, proteins are macronutrients. The other three macronutrients are carbs, fats and water. Being that water is free, it is taken out of the equation of 30, 30 and 30% of the food nutrient groups needed for hormone and cell balance. On cancer patients, many of them don't have enough protein in their diets, to have strength for the battle ahead with the disease. However, what you say is interesting. I will look into it. You have been blessed that your family is doing this with you, except for your teenage son.
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      1. Akanksha
        Akanksha
        The other question is also that how much of the animal protein that we eat is actually absorbed? Do you guys know that FDA assigns a PDCAAS (Protein Digestibility Corrected Amino Acid Score) to protein sources? So it is not just the amount of protein you consume but also the type of it..
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        1. pftsusan
          pftsusan
          That's true. And type is important too. I would think that you would have to take in at 30% to absorb around the necessary 10% of it. If you say 10% protein, what happens if your body doesn't absorb all of it? You might be headed for osteoprosis and other diseases. Thanks for the vote.
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      2. nezarynew
        nezarynew
        I'm also a personal trainer, and a marathon runner, and am a semester away from having a degree in health and exercise science and nutrition. You're way high on the protein proportion of the diet. Check out all the research- with very little exception, even athletes with an increased need should only be getting at max. around 20%. The average person should be around 11-12%. The body can't process more protein than it uses, which means that extra energy will wind up being stored as fat. Worse yet, too much protein can stress the kidneys if continually consumed and not used. You're definitely correct in saying that it's very important in the diet and the body, and of course, proper amino acid profiles need to be in those proteins -but 30% is far too high in a regular diet.
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        1. pftsusan
          pftsusan
          Your body doesn't absorb all 30% of what is on your nutrition chart for the day. There are arguments going both ways. Our CPT certifications indicate 30, 30 and 30 for a balanced oxydizer. If you are a high or low oxydizer, the percentages change.
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          1. pftsusan
            pftsusan
            I'm rereading this and I think that what you are not understanding here, is your "caloric intake for the day." is divided by 30, 30 and 30 that I am talking is for balanced oxydizers. So when I am eating 1700-2000 calories a day, that will be 57-116 gms protein, carbs and unsaturated fats. For high or low oxydizers, the ratios are different. Low oxydizer is for low metabolism. That's where I was when I was obese. Those ratios were 20, 20 and 20. For oxydizers, those with high metabolism, it's higher then 30. When the FDA is saying 10% protein, they are not taking into consideration people's lifestyle, body type and caloric count or diseases. They are just doing the normal Joe, which is a prototype that most of us don't fit.
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    2. Akanksha
      Akanksha
      True 10% is what we need for normal lifestyle!
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      1. Veganara
        Veganara
        Vote no 9, great article!
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        1. pftsusan
          pftsusan
          Thank you.
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  4. Carolyn
    Carolyn
    Susan, looks like this one has a good chance to make Top Posts this morning! I hope that you will turn right around and write another article!
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  5. Carolyn
    Carolyn
    Congrats for making Top Posts!
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    1. pftsusan
      pftsusan
      Thank you. Alright, I'm getting paid for this one. Tonight, I'm spending with my new kitten. She's Miley Paduano. 10 months old. She just moved in with me today. I love her to no end. She beautiful...I will write the next one tomorrow, the next day and the next. I still love writing and I do have to make living to pay our bills. It's nice to be able to share my passion of health, fitness and writing while I'm doing this.
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  6. Veganara
    Veganara
    In response to Nezarynew, it's true, we don't need anywhere near as much protein as a lot of people think. In fact it may even be as little as 5-10% (depending on your lifestyle, of course. Clearly very active people need more than that). But we can get it all from plants, in any case. I thought that excess protein can't be stored as fat, it is just passed out of the body? That's the principle behind the Atkins Diet; but in fact, that is a very unhealthy diet to follow or more than a few weeks! As you say, for one thing it puts a strain on your organs like the kidneys.
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    1. pftsusan
      pftsusan
      I know. I started my weight loss journey in 2003 on Atkins. After two weeks, my type two diabetes was gone, but then after four weeks I was constipated and in pain till no tomorrow. So I immediately went off of it and went the better path.
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      1. pftsusan
        pftsusan
        BTW, the nutrition plans that we follow for CPT are no indication of Atkins. I apologize for the mistake. It was not 30%. Rather it was divided by the ratio of 30, 30 and 30 is what I meant to say. The nutrition equation, that I lived by since 2003, blew Atkins right out of the water. Back then, I was on 1400 cals a day and it was 20, 20 and 20. That was 70 gms of protein, carbs and unsaturated fats a day.
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  7. Veganara
    Veganara
    Yes, I am sure people's needs for protein vary quite a lot. What do you mean by "oxidiser"?
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    1. pftsusan
      pftsusan
      First let me correct the spelling. It is oxidizer. Without breaking down molecule structures, the easiest way to explain is change in metabolism. When I was obese, I was a slow metabolizer. My thyroid hormones where on the low end. I really had to cut the calories and eat very clean. Then I would workout and the weight will fall off. During that time peroid, my metabolism was very sluggish. After I got the jobg done, which I'm going into five years now that I kept 125 lbs off of me, my metabolim went up and became balanced. So my ratio went up to 30, 30 and 30. In maintenance what is workable for me is 1700 calories six days a week and one high calorie day. I chose Sundays for those.
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      1. Veganara
        Veganara
        So by "oxydizer" you mean your body's ability to burn off excess fat? I have always had a slow metabolism too, always struggled with my weight. I have lost some weight since becoming vegan, but I need to lose some more really. So it was really a combination of diet and exercise that made you lose all that weight? I do exercise, but clearly not enough!
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      2. Veganara
        Veganara
        So by "oxydizer" you mean your body's ability to burn off excess fat? I have always had a slow metabolism too, always struggled with my weight. I have lost some weight since becoming vegan, but I need to lose some more really. So it was really a combination of diet and exercise that made you lose all that weight? I do exercise, but clearly not enough!
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        1. pftsusan
          pftsusan
          Yes. The body's ability to burn off excess fat. For me, it was committment to myself, not to enter the second have of my life, obese. I had been working for 35 years 5 X a week. I would be able to take the weight off, but not be able to keep it off. Definately issues with obssessive over eating. So I dealt with my demons and put an end to all this. I went and built myself online support groups, family support, and support at my gyms. It comes from mindset, first.Then the second most important thing, your nutrition and caloric intake. A must. Then exercise. Both cardio and resistance training. Proper form first, all the way. So even now, when I have two weeks off from training, I have my calories and clean eating, under control. Then I just go back to train. Once, I got myself out of that prison (this was misery), there was no turning back. This is the first time ever, in my life that I'm success maintaining weight loss. I'm here now, to pay this forwards to others. Veganara, the one thing is, don't quit. You can always find something that you like to do for exercise.
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